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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:56 am 
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Cyclists should obey the law and stay off of interstate highways and other restricted highways. All other roadways are open to cyclists and they should have the right to use them per our state laws. If other users (drivers of automobiles) have a problem with this, they should contact their elected officials and request bike lanes, bike paths, or something similar. If there is not a safe and legal alternative, cyclists will always ride in the road. A sidewalk is not a legal alternative. A non-existent shoulder, or one littered with debris is not a safe alternative.

With gas prices climbing and traffic increasing, I would think more people would be open to cycling. Cycling produces no emissions, requires no gasoline, and causes no noise pollution. Bicycles cause no damage to roadways, they take up less space on the road and require less space for parking. The byproduct of cycling includes a healthier rider, cleaner air, and less traffic.

Sounds like a good deal to me.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:15 pm 
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chrisdusack wrote:
Done:

Cyclists should obey the law and stay off of interstate highways and other restricted highways. All other roadways are open to cyclists and they should have the right to use them per our state laws. If other users (drivers of automobiles) have a problem with this, they should contact their elected officials and request bike lanes, bike paths, or something similar. If there is not a safe and legal alternative, cyclists will always ride in the road. A sidewalk is not a legal alternative. A non-existent shoulder, or one littered with debris is not a safe alternative.

With gas prices climbing and traffic increasing, I would think more people would be open to cycling. Cycling produces no emissions, requires no gasoline, and causes no noise pollution. Bicycles cause no damage to roadways, they take up less space on the road and require less space for parking. The byproduct of cycling includes a healthier rider, cleaner air, and less traffic.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Very well said and much nicer than mine!

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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:29 pm 
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chrisdusack wrote:
Done:

Cyclists should obey the law and stay off of interstate highways and other restricted highways. All other roadways are open to cyclists and they should have the right to use them per our state laws. If other users (drivers of automobiles) have a problem with this, they should contact their elected officials and request bike lanes, bike paths, or something similar. If there is not a safe and legal alternative, cyclists will always ride in the road. A sidewalk is not a legal alternative. A non-existent shoulder, or one littered with debris is not a safe alternative.

With gas prices climbing and traffic increasing, I would think more people would be open to cycling. Cycling produces no emissions, requires no gasoline, and causes no noise pollution. Bicycles cause no damage to roadways, they take up less space on the road and require less space for parking. The byproduct of cycling includes a healthier rider, cleaner air, and less traffic.

Sounds like a good deal to me.


+1
I sent her an email with many of the same points. I also added that bikes are not causing traffic problems, too many cars are causing traffic problems.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:35 pm 
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i have to agree with this letter to the editor. i know cyclists won't want to admit it, but we do make some silly decisions on the roads.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:39 pm 
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You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:16 pm 
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KurtisSegars wrote:
You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?


Well, the way people are driving in Metro Atlanta doesn't save gas.
Not having a traffic lights linked together doesn't save gas.
Driving kids to school when there is a school bus doesn't save gas.
Not making it possible for kids to ride their bikes to school doesn't save gas.
Not having a working public transportation system doesn't save gas.

You want me to continue? Plus I highly doubt that one cyclist will slow down hundreds of cars. It's more the incompetence of drivers that slows them down.

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What we need is a concept that links all different forms of transportation together to provide a working infrastructure. If we keep focusing on cars we will come to a dead end sooner or later that will kill any potential for growth.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:17 pm 
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KurtisSegars wrote:
You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?


Actually, you could probably argue that it does, as the engine doesn't work as hard to overcome the the wind resistance. If you've ever actually ridden a bike at 25mph, you would realize that there is quite a bit of it at that speed. What it doesn't save is time, but that's YOUR issue, not ours. If you (like us) opted to ride your bike to work, you would have your commute and work-out out of the way at the same time. What's that you say? You don't work out? Well, now we know why "time" is so precious to you - yours may be more limited than ours. BTW, hundreds of cyclists biking to work DOES actually save gas. Give it a try. The reason most folks don't is because of the inconsiderate attitude of Atlanta drivers.

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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:21 pm 
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Tweety wrote:
KurtisSegars wrote:
You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?


Actually, you could probably argue that it does, as the engine doesn't work as hard to overcome the the wind resistance. If you've ever actually ridden a bike at 25mph, you would realize that there is quite a bit of it at that speed. What it doesn't save is time, but that's YOUR issue, not ours. If you (like us) opted to ride your bike to work, you would have your commute and work-out out of the way at the same time. What's that you say? You don't work out? Well, now we know why "time" is so precious to you - yours may be more limited than ours. BTW, hundreds of cyclists biking to work DOES actually save gas. Give it a try. The reason most folks don't is because of the inconsiderate attitude of Atlanta drivers.



I work 50+ hours a week and go to school at night, I don't have time to ride a bike 70 miles a day.

Get different roads from your cycling. The other day hundreds of cars were backed up on HWY 5 by one cyclist driving in the middle of a lane at about 10 MPH. Traffic was backed up from 75 to past 92.

That's a lot of gas.

This happening more and more often. What is funny is Chastain Rd is nearby and there are no cyclist ever on it even though it has a bike lane.

It's becuase cyclist want to cause traffic. They derive pleasure from knowing they are causing traffic backups. It's being a straight up douche bag and people are getting tired of it.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:22 pm 
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Minimalist wrote:
KurtisSegars wrote:
You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?


Well, the way people are driving in Metro Atlanta doesn't save gas.
Not having a traffic lights linked together doesn't save gas.
Driving kids to school when there is a school bus doesn't save gas.
Not making it possible for kids to ride their bikes to school doesn't save gas.
Not having a working public transportation system doesn't save gas.

You want me to continue? Plus I highly doubt that one cyclist will slow down hundreds of cars. It's more the incompetence of drivers that slows them down.

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What we need is a concept that links all different forms of transportation together to provide a working infrastructure. If we keep focusing on cars we will come to a dead end sooner or later that will kill any potential for growth.



When you have two lanes and heavy flow and one lane is going 25-40 MPH slower than the other lane it is going to cause backups. Everyone in the left lane tries to get in the right and ti causes problems.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:25 pm 
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KurtisSegars wrote:
I work 50+ hours a week and go to school at night, I don't have time to ride a bike 70 miles a day.

Get different roads from your cycling. The other day hundreds of cars were backed up on HWY 5 by one cyclist driving in the middle of a lane at about 10 MPH. Traffic was backed up from 75 to past 92.

That's a lot of gas.

This happening more and more often. What is funny is Chastain Rd is nearby and there are no cyclist ever on it even though it has a bike lane.

It's becuase cyclist want to cause traffic. They derive pleasure from knowing they are causing traffic backups. It's being a straight up douche bag and people are getting tired of it.


Just because you encounter one a$$hole you want to ban all cyclist? I had people try to push me off the (country)road. You tell me who's worse and the bigger a$$hole.


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:25 pm 
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KurtisSegars wrote:
You guys do realizing causing hundreds of cars to got 25 MPH slower than the speed limit does not save gas, right?



Hey troll, what up.

Congratulations on your very first utterly ridiculous post. I look forward to many more like this.

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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:29 pm 
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So, if I were driving a car 25-30 miles an hour and causing a delay, should I not be allowed on the road either? And don't you think you are being a little assumptive by saying all cyclist want to create traffic woes, blah, blah, blah? I ride on the road some and try to pick times and places where the traffic is mild so I won't be an issue. Other cyclist don't have that luxury. I'm sorry if it causes you a short delay, but really, is it the end of the world you are making it out to be?


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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
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KurtisSegars wrote:
The other day hundreds of cars were backed up on HWY 5 by one cyclist driving in the middle of a lane at about 10 MPH. Traffic was backed up from 75 to past 92.



ummm. bullsh!t

KurtisSegars wrote:
What is funny is Chastain Rd is nearby and there are no cyclist ever on it even though it has a bike lane.


You could get killed just trying to get to those bike lanes on Chastain, no thanks.

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It's becuase cyclist want to cause traffic. They derive pleasure from knowing they are causing traffic backups. It's being a straight up douche bag and people are getting tired of it.


ummm. bullsh!t again.

Second post, just as ridiculous as the first. Keep it up!!

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 Post subject: Re: "Cyclist's create road hazard. Should (they) use roadways?"
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:32 pm 
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Pretty obvious you guys don't want to be reasonable and have an adult discussion on this. You live in a fantasy land. Carry on. I have found out my letter has gotten a very positive response and I am sending letters to local politcians on how to spin this into a class warfare thing. Will be pretty easy to get you off the roads. Enjoy what time you have left. Good day.


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